Legislature(2023 - 2024)DAVIS 106

03/08/2023 08:00 AM House EDUCATION

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08:01:39 AM Start
08:02:43 AM HB9
09:07:13 AM Adjourn
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+= HB 9 ADD FACULTY MEMBER UNIV BOARD OF REGENTS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
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+ Presentation: Alaska Performance Scholarship TELECONFERENCED
Program and Outreach by Department of Education
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        HB   9-ADD FACULTY MEMBER UNIV BOARD OF REGENTS                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:02:43 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  RUFFRIDGE announced  that  the only  order of  business                                                               
would  be HOUSE  BILL NO.  9, "An  Act relating  to the  Board of                                                               
Regents of the University of Alaska."                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:03:36 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ASHLEY CARRICK,  Alaska State  Legislature, prime                                                               
sponsor  of HB  9, thanked  the  committee for  revisiting HB  9,                                                               
which  would add  a faculty  member to  the University  of Alaska                                                               
Board of Regents.   Her hope was  that a lot would  be taken away                                                               
from  the public  testimony that  would be  provided.   She noted                                                               
that a number  faculty were excited to talk about  the issues and                                                               
address some of the challenges  that the university faces without                                                               
having  representation on  the board.   Having  a faculty  member                                                               
would  add  to the  overall  direction  and composition  for  the                                                               
governance of the University of Alaska, she added.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:06:55 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
STUART RELAY, Staff, Representative  Ashley Carrick, Alaska State                                                               
Legislature, on  behalf of  Representative Ashley  Carrick, prime                                                               
sponsor of  HB 9,  explained that in  a previous  hearing, regent                                                               
biographies  were  requested.     He  confirmed  that  they  were                                                               
included in the committee packet today.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:08:12 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR RUFFRIDGE opened public testimony on HB 9.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:08:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MARIA WILLIAMS, Professor, University  of Alaska Anchorage (UAA),                                                               
testified in support of HB 9.   She relayed that she is a faculty                                                               
member and explained  that the board of  regents oftentimes deals                                                               
with the complexities  of the roles of faculty.   If there is the                                                               
opportunity to have  the voice of a faculty member  at the table,                                                               
she  opined,  it would  make  the  university stronger  and  more                                                               
powerful.  She said decisions would be less damaging.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:11:56 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ALLARD asked  Ms. Williams whether she  had testified in                                                               
front of the board of regents at any time.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS.  WILLIAMS replied  that  she  had when  she  was the  faculty                                                               
alliance chair.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:12:44 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ALLARD  sought to confirm that  multiple faculty members                                                               
could testify.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. WILLIAMS  replied that  the board  of regents  allowed public                                                               
testimony prior  to the start  of their meeting; however,  it has                                                               
now moved  to remote testimony  a week  before the meeting.   The                                                               
only  faculty person  allowed to  speak is  the faculty  alliance                                                               
chair for a seven-minute time slot, she said.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:13:38 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STORY asked Ms. Williams  how she sees the role of                                                               
a  faculty member  participating  on the  board  during times  of                                                               
negotiation.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. WILLIAMS  replied that recently,  the board went  through the                                                               
collective   bargaining   agreement,    and   she   watched   the                                                               
negotiations with a  handful of leaders.  She  observed that when                                                               
it  came to  voting, it  was not  unusual to  have a  conflict of                                                               
interest amongst the  regents and it would not be  a challenge to                                                               
abstain.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:16:24 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ALLARD asked whether the  focus is only advocating for a                                                               
faculty member from University of Alaska Fairbanks (UAF).                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS.  WILLIAMS  clarified  it  is  for the  entire  system.    She                                                               
explained  that   the  chair  rotates   between  UAA,   UAF,  and                                                               
University of Alaska  Southeast (UAS).  The leaders  of the three                                                               
faculty senates meet to discuss the  issues, which is the role of                                                               
faculty alliance.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ALLARD asked  Ms. Williams whether she was  aware of the                                                               
lack of leadership support.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. WILLIAMS replied that there  is a perception that the faculty                                                               
are like  an "angry mob,"  but the fact  is that faculty  are all                                                               
very  dedicated  to their  perspective  universities.   Adding  a                                                               
faculty  member to  the board  of regents  allows faculty  on the                                                               
board  to  have those  very  important  conversations with  other                                                               
regents, she said.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ALLARD stated that she preferred the rotating system.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. WILLIAMS  concurred, adding that  she believes in  a rotating                                                               
system.  She said  the way the bill is set up  it could result in                                                               
a two-year term rotating amongst  the three major universities if                                                               
it comes to fruition.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:19:35 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
HEATHER  BATCHELDER, Professor,  University  of Alaska  Southeast                                                               
(UAS),  testified in  support  of HB  9.   She  provided a  brief                                                               
background and explained that she  was faculty alliance chair, as                                                               
well  faculty  senate president,  adding  that  the system  would                                                               
benefit from  adding a faculty  regent.   It would be  helpful in                                                               
onboarding, she  said, and the institutional  knowledge a faculty                                                               
member would  possess can help  to clear up  misconceptions about                                                               
academia  that many  people have.   She  provided names  of other                                                               
universities that have a faculty member at the table.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:21:20 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LUANN  PICCARD,  Chair,  University of  Alaska  Anchorage  (UAA),                                                               
testified in support  of HB 9.  She expressed  appreciation to be                                                               
able to address  the committee, and provided  a brief background.                                                               
She said  she supported what  the prior testifiers  had expressed                                                               
and emphasized  the importance of  having new voices to  bring to                                                               
the  conversation  for innovation.    She  stated that  having  a                                                               
faculty  regent would  help  support and  bring  diversity and  a                                                               
voice  into the  room with  the experience  to contribute  to the                                                               
conversation and make the voice stronger.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:26:27 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  ALLARD asked  Ms. Piccard  how she  felt about  current                                                               
regent members who were faculty  members that had lengthy careers                                                               
at the University of Alaska.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. PICCARD replied  she did not think any  members were previous                                                               
faculty, although they may have attended the university.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:27:35 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PRAX asked  Ms. Piccard  about her  experience in                                                               
Hewlett Packard and whether it was a shareholder owned company.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. PICCARD confirmed it was a publicly traded corporation.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PRAX   asked  whether   there  was   an  employee                                                               
representative on the board of directors.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS.  PICCARD replied  she did  not  think there  was an  employee                                                               
representative on the corporate board of directors.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:28:46 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HIMSCHOOT questioned  the documentation  Co-Chair                                                               
Allard  had   regarding  regents  who  have   full  time  faculty                                                               
experience.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  ALLARD replied  she was  looking at  resumes of  people                                                               
who, for example, worked as professors and sat on boards.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:29:50 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JENNIE  CARROLL,   Associate  Professor,  University   of  Alaska                                                               
Fairbanks (UAF),  began her  testimony in support  of HB  9 after                                                               
providing a  brief introduction.   She  stated that  faculty does                                                               
the business  of the university,  have a great deal  of knowledge                                                               
and expertise, and have a desire  to be partners.  In addition to                                                               
having  a student  regent, she  said, bringing  a faculty  regent                                                               
into the mix would provide that well rounded knowledge.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:32:46 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX asked whether a  faculty member would have to                                                               
resign  their position  if they  wish to  serve on  the board  of                                                               
regents.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARROLL replied she does not know.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:33:52 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCKAY asked what would  happen if there were a tie                                                               
vote.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARROLL  confirmed there  had been discussion  on that.   The                                                               
board tends to  vote unanimously and does not  typically see this                                                               
coming up at the board level, she said.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MCKAY  stated  that  should  a  tie  happen,  the                                                               
procedure should be on the record.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARROLL  replied that the board  would have to make  a policy                                                               
and establish the steps.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:35:24 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STORY   suggested  that   Representative  Carrick                                                               
explain what she had covered in a previous hearing.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:35:46 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CARRICK directed  her response  to Representative                                                               
McKay,  and explained  that the  board would  be increased  to 12                                                               
members and  a majority of  board members present for  the quorum                                                               
would  be required  to approve  a  motion.   She reiterated  that                                                               
votes are  usually unanimous,  and it is  unlikely it  would ever                                                               
come  down to  just one  vote.   However, there  is a  process in                                                               
place for a tie situation in  that it would take seven members to                                                               
approve any motion.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCKAY reiterated his  belief that voting should be                                                               
clear  so as  not to  end  up with  a gridlock  situation and  be                                                               
unable to move forward.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:37:10 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  ALLARD  offered  her   understanding  that  the  voting                                                               
follows  Robert's  Rules  [Robert's   Rules  of  Order],  and  in                                                               
Robert's Rules, a tie fails.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CARRICK   confirmed  that  Co-Chair   Allard  was                                                               
correct in stating that a tie vote [6-6] would fail.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:38:25 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TIM WOODIE, representing self, testified in  support of HB 9.  He                                                               
expressed  deep  concerns about  the  future  of Alaska  and  the                                                               
education  system.   He  explained  his  personal connections  to                                                               
present  and  former university  faculty  members  and had  heard                                                               
their frustrations  and concerns.   He said  it was  an injustice                                                               
not to  faculty members on the  board of regents and  opined that                                                               
this should have been done long  ago.  He urged the committee not                                                               
to delay in making it happen now.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:40:25 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MAX KULLBERG, representing self,  provided a brief background and                                                               
testified in support of  HB 9.  He stated that  the bill would be                                                               
a step in the right  direction for including shared government at                                                               
the university.   Other  regents could lean  on a  faculty regent                                                               
when it comes to making  decisions, as they possess comprehensive                                                               
understanding.  Adding  a faculty regent would  follow a national                                                               
trend happening across the country, he said.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:43:16 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  ALLARD asked  Mr.  Kullberg whether  he  was a  faculty                                                               
member, and whether he was a part of the union.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. KULLBERG  replied he has  a long history with  the university                                                               
and  is now  a  faculty member  as an  associate  professor.   He                                                               
clarified that  he was part of  the union but does  not take part                                                               
in meetings.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:46:14 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KEVIN  MAIER,  representing  self, provided  his  background  and                                                               
testified in support of  HB 9.  He stated that  the addition of a                                                               
faculty regent would represent a  government where all voices are                                                               
heard, and decisions are made collectively and democratically.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:48:18 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WILLIAM CASON,  representing self, testified  in support of  HB 9                                                               
and urged  the committee  to support adding  a faculty  member to                                                               
the university board.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:49:18 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ART  NASH, Associate  Professor of  Energy, University  of Alaska                                                               
Fairbanks (UAF),  testified in support  of HGB  9.  He  offered a                                                               
brief introduction before expressing support for HB 9.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:51:57 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOEL POTTER,  representing self,  testified in  support of  HB 9.                                                               
He  thanked  the  committee  for   taking  public  testimony  and                                                               
expressed his support for HB 9.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:55:15 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
STACEY LUCASON, representing self, testified  in support of HB 9.                                                               
She stated  she is a former  member of the board  of regents, and                                                               
she  said  that  while  the board  is  composed  of  enthusiastic                                                               
committee  members with  a  variety  of experience,  specifically                                                               
including a student member could bring a unique insight.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:58:01 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ALEX JORGENSEN, representing self, testified  in support of HB 9.                                                               
He said  he echoed what  previous testifiers have said,  and that                                                               
the knowledge and experience a  faculty member could bring to the                                                               
table is  a positive.   Adding a  faculty regent, he  said, would                                                               
increase  the strength  of  the university  and  in turn  improve                                                               
Alaska.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:59:35 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
AMY LAUREN  LOVECRAFT, Professor, University of  Alaska Fairbanks                                                               
(UAF), testified in  support of HB 9, and  provided the committee                                                               
with a personal  perspective.  She stated that the  addition of a                                                               
faculty member would  provide a current "finger on  the pulse" of                                                               
what is happening with the university.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:05:03 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR RUFFRIDGE closed public testimony on HB 9.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:05:18 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CARRICK  provided a  brief wrap-up and  offered to                                                               
connect  with the  committee to  provide further  answers to  any                                                               
questions.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:06:19 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR RUFFRIDGE announced that HB 9 was held over.                                                                           

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
DEED- 3.8.2023 Alaska Performance Scholarship ACPE_2023.pdf HEDC 3/8/2023 8:00:00 AM
2023.02.01.HB9.Support.Faculty.Alliance.pdf HEDC 3/8/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 9
2023.02.03.HB9.Support.UNAC.pdf HEDC 3/8/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 9
HB 9 Fiscal Note.pdf HEDC 3/8/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 9
HB 9- oppose.pdf HEDC 3/8/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 9
HB9.House Education Questions and Answers 02.22.2023.pdf HEDC 3/8/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 9
HB9.Sectional.Analysis.Version.A.pdf HEDC 3/8/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 9
HB9.Sponsor.Statement.Version.A.pdf HEDC 3/8/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 9
HB9.Version.A.pdf HEDC 3/8/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 9
HB 31 02.23.23 House Education Committee Follow-up Responses.pdf HEDC 3/8/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 31
HB 31 230220_HSE_Educations_AASB Testimony.pdf HEDC 3/8/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 31
HB 31 - Report-McDowellGroup-ACPE APS Program Review & Recs 2021.pdf HEDC 3/8/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 31
HB 31 Alaska_Institution_Cost_of_Attendance_Table 02.17.23.pdf HEDC 3/8/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 31
HB 31 Alaska-CTE-Fact-Sheet-2021.pdf HEDC 3/8/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 31
HB 31 APS Approved-Institutions-and-Programs_08-27-20 (002).pdf HEDC 3/8/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 31
HB 31 CTE-Additions-to-APS-Award-Checklist 02.17.23.pdf HEDC 3/8/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 31
HB 31 Fiscal Note-AK Commission on Postsecondary Education_ Program Administration & Operations.pdf HEDC 3/8/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 31
HB 31 Fiscal Note-Education Support & Admin Services_Student & School Achievement.pdf HEDC 3/8/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 31
HB 31 Fiscal Note-Student Financial Aid Programs_AK Performance Scholarship Awards.pdf HEDC 3/8/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 31
HB 31 Letter of Support-JBicchinella-CharterCollege.pdf HEDC 3/8/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 31
HB 31 Letter of Support-UA-CHutchison 02.13.23.pdf HEDC 3/8/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 31
HB 31 NCSL_State Scholarship Programs_2_23_22.pdf HEDC 3/8/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 31
HB 31 Presentation 02.17.23.pdf HEDC 3/8/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 31
HB 31 Sectional Analysis 02.08.23.pdf HEDC 3/8/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 31
HB 31 Sponsor Statement 02.08.23.pdf HEDC 3/8/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 31
HB 31 support.pdf HEDC 3/8/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 31
HB0031A.PDF HEDC 3/8/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 31